- C'est une chambre pleine! It's
nice to see everybody here.
Merci, merci tout le! Monde à la
séance du conseil du cette
février dernier, nous avons
rendu un hommage à monsieur
Gregory bien lobby, très
impliquée... impliqué, il est
décédé le 16 janvier.
Malheureusement, une erreur
s'est glissée dans le texte
concernant sa ville de
résidence. Il a été mentionné
qu'il était un résidant de
Dorval alors que monsieur
Bielby était un grand bénévole,
mais également un résident de la
Ville de Pointe-Claire. Au nom
de la ville, je tiens à
présenter des excuses à sa
famille et ses amis pour cette
erreur et leur souhaiter à
nouveau toutes mes sympathies
At the very seventh council
meeting the pay tribute to Mr.
Gregory -- and passed away on
January 16th. Unfortunately, an
error was made in the text
regarding his city's residents.
It was mentioned he was a
resident of Dorval, whereas he
was a great volunteer and, in
fact, a resident of the city of
Pointe-Claire. On behalf of the
city I would like to apologize
to his family and friends for
this error and offer them,
again, our deepest condolences.
La rue Columbus... toujours à la
séance du conseil du 7 février
dernier, j'ai mentionné que nous
avions eu une demande en
novembre 2022 pour modifier le
nom de la rue Columbus à
Pointe-Claire, et que selon un
document que nous avions en
même, le nom de la rue était à
la mémoire de Christophe Colomb.
Aujourd'hui, je dois rectifier,
encore une fois, ces propos:
l'équipe des archives a
poursuivi ses recherches et nous
ont appris que dans l'ensemble
des publications officielles
incluant la correspondance entre
la Ville de Pointe-Claire et la
Commission de type autonomie du
Québec, il n'y a aucune
toponymie, pardon, il n'y a
aucune information permettant
d'établir un lien entre l'avenue
Columbus et la mémoire de
Christophe-Colomb.
Still, at the council meeting of
February 7th, I mentioned we had
had a request in November, 2022,
to change the name of Columbus
Street in Pointe-Claire, and
that according to a document we
had in hand, the name of the
street was in memory of
Christopher Columbus. Today, I
must correct this statement. The
archives team has continued its
research and informs us that, in
all the official correspondence
-- and the commission de
toponymie de Québec -- memory of
Christopher Columbus.
- La Ville de Pointe-Claire
s'apprête à signer une entente
de collaboration avec
l'organisme
SportAid. SportAid est un
organisme sans but lucratif
indépendant créé en 2014 par une
équipe de trois personnes
interpellées par le phénomène de
la violence dans les sports.
L'organisme vise à offrir des
services d'accompagnement,
d'écoute et d'orientation aux
jeunes le sportive, mais
également, aux divers acteurs
non sportif québécois, par,
entraîneur, aux organisations
sportives officielles et
bénévoles au témoin de violence
à l'égard des jeunes sportifs.
Cette entente permettra à la
Ville et aux clubs sportifs
paramunicipaux qui sont le club
aquatique et le club de
canoë-kayak d'obtenir des
services conseils personnalisés
et de se faire accompagner dans
le développement et l'adaptation
des politiques et procédures en
matière de sécurité dans le
sport. Pointe-Claire la première
ville à signer une entente avec
SportAid et se positionne en
tant que chef de file et
pionnier pour l'engagement de
leur ville qui vise à obtenir un
milieu sportif, de loisirs
sains, harmonieux et inclusif.
Je tiens à remercier notre
dynamique équipe de sport et
loisirs et son directeur,
monsieur Gilles Girouard. Ce
partenariat démontre notre
proactivité et notre souci de
qualité et de services offerts à
notre communauté.
City of Pointe-Claire its back
to Santa Clara ration with
agreement with Sport'Aide.
Sport'Aide it's an independent
nonprofit organization created
in 2014 by team of three people
concerned by the phenomenon of
violence in sports. The
organization aims to offer
support and guidance services to
young athletes as well as to the
various actors in the Québec
sports world -- parents,
coaches, sports organizations,
officials and volunteers, who
may have witnessed violence
against young athletes. This
agreement will allow the city
and the power municipal sports
clubs -- the aquatic club and
canoe kayak club -- to obtain
personalized consulting services
and to be assisted in the
development and adaptation of
sports safety policies and
procedures. Pointe-Claire it's
the first city to sign an
agreement with Sport'Aide,
positioning it as a leader and
further demonstrating our city's
commitment to maintaining a
healthy, safe, harmonious, and
inclusive sports and recreation
environment. I would like to
thank our dynamic sports and
recreation team and it's
director. This partnership
demonstrates our partnership and
concern for the quality of
services offered to our
community. Elections --
Comme Excuse me --
Vous le savez, déjà nous aurons
des élections partielles le 23
avril prochain pour le district
deux afin d'élire une
remplaçante ou un remplaçant
pour combler le poste laissé
vacant depuis le départ de la
conseillère, madame Erin
Tedford. Depuis vendredi le dix,
mars toutes les informations
sont disponibles sur notre site
Internet, les dates
d'éligibilité débatteurs,
l'endroit du vote, les
candidats, etc.. N'hésitez pas à
consulter le site si vous avez
des questions.
As you already know, we will
have a by-election on April 23rd
for district 20 11, -- left by
the replacement of -- Erin
Tedford. -- it's available on
our website. Dates, eligibility
of voters, voting location,
candidates, it's set to. Do not
hesitate to consult the site if
you have any questions.
>> Adoption of the
- Agenda, with changes.
Adoption de l'ordre du jour avec
changement, le retrait des
points The withdrawal of 6.2 et
15.4. 6.2 and 15.4.
>> Do I have a mover?
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
district three.
>> -- district to.
>> All in favour? Okay.
2.1 Proclamer le 17 mai 2023
comme étant la journée
internationale contre
l'homophobie et la transphobie.
The claim -- international day
against homophobia and
transphobia.
3.1 Approuver le procès verbal
de la séance ordinaire du 7
février 2023.
3.2, violin approve the minutes
of the traffic committee meeting
of January 24th, 2023.
>> Do I have a mover?
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
district three.
>> And a seconder?
>> -- district, too.
>> Question period?
Tout le monde comprend les
règles? We have
A 90 minute limit. And
Pointe-Claire citizens first.
>> We have a list --
>> Oh, yes --
>> Do you want to start with the
representative of school?
>>
-- St. Thomas.
>> Good evening, I'm Mary Joseph
Coutu, principle of -- extremely
proud of, along with their
teacher
Doiyonne -- for safety and
security during our drop off in
the morning -- it's been pretty
hectic and there's a lot of
traffic. And they took the
initiative to start looking into
this and have been working on
this project. And before I pass
it along to them I have to thank
the city of Pointe-Claire,
Pointe-Claire security, Mr.
Tanguay, and Mr. reshod, who,
when we started meeting, they
took the time to meet with me,
and had been present at the
school to really help us and
support us. So, I can't thank
them enough. So thank you. I
have Yves with me, Samantha,
Gabriel, and -- Lawrence. They
are going to speak to a bit
about our project.
>> Dear Pointe-Claire City
Councillors -- the Pointe-Claire
City councillors and Mr. Mayor.
Thank you for having us here
this evening. The reason we
wanted to do this project is
because we found that there was
a lot of traffic around the
school. And it wasn't always
safe for staff and students. We
felt it was very important to
try to find ways to improve the
safety around our school.
>> The seven classes of
secondary to -- working on this
for the last few months. In
groups of two, we had to come up
with some solutions to help fix
these problems. We had students
stand outside in the morning to
monitor and record how many
roles were being broken. For
example, jaywalking, or not
stopping in the right areas was
one of the most dangerous ones
and we had to prioritize the
biggest problems.
>> Some of the ideas that we
came up with are an extra cross
walk, flashing crosswalk button,
installation of a sidewalk on
the west side of broad view,
extra traffic signs, adding a
crossing guard, just to name a
few. The document that will be
submitted lists all of our
ideas.
>> We really learned a lot
working on this project, since
it affects the entire school
population. And it allowed us to
participate directly in this
process to make a difference at
our school. Again, we thank you
for your time and consideration
this evening and hope that you
will think about some of our
ideas to make it safer around
St. Thomas High School. Merci
[Applause]
Beaucoup
>>!
(applaudissements)
Bravo!
Thanks very much. Yeah, of
course, absolutely.
>> I'm Councillor Kelly
Thorstad-Cullen, and on behalf
of Councillor Homan, I just want
to say a huge thank you. It is a
wonderful initiative. We did
hear some concerns from our
residents and we are going to
direct them for the link for
this evening to see all of your
hard work. We greatly appreciate
it. Because this was an amazing
collaboration and you have taken
a great and it should eventually
fantastic leadership. So, thank
you. Thank you very much.
[Applause]
>> So, do we move to bury
Christiansen? Pointe-Claire
citizens association?
>> Mr. Paul Atkinson was first.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh,
- O.K., O.K., okay. Sorry about
that. C'était pour le...
I'm sorry, Mister Mayor, we --
proceed with the conversation
presentation by Barry Christian
--
>> --
- Non, il n'y a rien là... wow,
there goes half la moitié de the
room.
La Chambre...
(rires)
>> What an effect on the room,
right? Good to go?
>> Yep.
>> The Pointe-Claire citizens
Association would like to
recognize the great work of
public works this year with snow
removal. We put together thank
you card that we would like to
present on the behalf of the
members. This year was
extraordinary. The snow drops
were falling, the trucks were
picking it up before it hit the
ground. It's just an awesome job
this year. We are really proud
and very happy to be living in
Pointe-Claire and with the great
team that -- behalf. Thank you
very much.
[Applause]
>> So, all credit goes to Erik
and Madame Russia low -- they
are the magic workers on this
project.
So, Paul, I think we are ready
for you. Apologies for not
getting to last meeting. We will
make sure it happens this time
around.
>> Can you hear me okay?
>> Yap.
>> Okay. Good evening -- spoke
to Councillor Tara Stainforth --
condos. Instead of being
installed a couple of stories
high and shining down onto the
parking lot, these were
installed low to the ground. In
trying to cross the parking lot
and into the houses on calls
them at night -- these lights
are incredibly bright to the
point where the Black help lines
and curtains that I installed
are basically insufficient. The
light comes into the sides and
basically illuminates my
bedroom. It also shines in the
bathroom in the back of my
house, lighting up the top
floor. I'm someone who has small
children. And all of us are
being affected by poor quality
of sleep because of this
lighting situation. We also have
seniors on our street who had
the same issue. They are not
getting the sleep they need as
well. According to the city's
bylaw, and I quote, the
intensity of a brightness of
parking lot lighting shell at no
time create a nuisance for the
neighbouring properties. This is
bylaw -- chapter seven, 7.5.
We've spoken to Public Security.
But they feel there is nothing
to be done for the following
reasons. The first is that the
distance of the light fixture
from our house is. But the bylaw
makes no mission mention of
distance. And only mentioned the
intensity or brightness, which
is the problem. And second,
public security was told by the
condo board that they reduce the
brightness of the light. However
the residents of Austin have not
seen a difference. But public
security believes that, because
they were told that by the condo
board that they made an effort
-- they feel that they acted in
good faith -- and apparently
that's enough to close the case.
But if reality, nothing has been
done to help us. Any effort to
resolve this has been an abject
failure. So, as an Austin
resident this is just the latest
incident asking the City for
assistance and being -- so, when
the Sotramont project began, we
assured our privacy would not be
affected. Our privacy is now
nonexistent. -- proper foliage
between Sotramont properties and
our homes. And now with the
installation of the one west
condos and the people who can
stare at directly into our
bedroom windows -- we have a
ditch that is not only being
drowned from mosquitoes, by that
flooded last, rain causing
significant damage to your
residents home. We asked for
study to be done to ensure this
wouldn't happen again. But the
city denied that. And because --
last week -- stated that there's
an increased chance of flooding
this spring due to the amount of
snow that's on the ground. As
you can, legends causing anxiety
for residents, which is --
animosity towards the city. So,
now we have this lighting
situation. But really, that's
just the latest problem. So, my
first question tonight is, why
won't the City respect its own
bylaw in regards to the light
that is shining directly into
our houses?
>> Well, this is all news to me,
Mister Atkinson, and as you
know, I feel for the citizens of
Austin big-time. And that can be
easily looked into. Can you give
photographs or a filament or
show the effect of the lighting?
So that people don't have to go
tonight? Can you give us
evidence or show visually?
>> --
>> Okay.
>> As you see, our -- at
different times --
>> That's what I --
>> -- appear less bright.
>> Okay. So, when it's at its
worst, can you take a picture?
So that we can --
>> It's basically like somebody
parking their car in front of my
house and turning their rights
on and turning shining them into
my house.
>> Well, lightning is something
that can be solved. -- I've
always felt for you guys. I feel
it is something that we should
be able to look into and it's an
easier solution of a lot of the
impediments that you guys are up
against. I don't see any reason
why we can't look into it and
tried and better it. I see no
reason for that. But
>> We have tried. Just for the
record, we have tried, we have
spoken to Councillor Stainforth.
I spoke to Public Security. But
it's like nothing is getting
resolved and we are still stuck
in this same situation.
>> Okay.
>> May I speak?
>> Yes.
>> We've been in touch with the
condo association. And they had
an electrician come in and make
alterations to the lights.
Unfortunately, as is Mr. Tongaue
explained -- essentially told us
they will bring us to court. And
because the distance doesn't
fall within immediate neighbours
and all of the immediate
neighbours are happy with the
lighting situation as is, so we
have tried to negotiate with
them in order to try and find a
solution for everybody rather
than play hardball and issue
tickets. We have been working
with them to reduce the impact
of the lighting on those
neighbours on -- and with hope
that that would help at the
situation.
>> It hasn't. And by your
reasoning, I could set up lights
on top of my house and shined
them at the condo building at a
vacant -- and just say, I'm too
far away, you can't do anything
about it. And I don't think
that's what we should be here
for -- here for.
>> No, which is why we've been
in communication with him on
several occasions and we've been
sending our inspectors by to
check the lighting.
That's where the situation is at
this point in time. If the mayor
has better ideas to collaborate
with the inspector, with
inspector Tongaue, then for sure
we are open to doing whatever we
can to resolve the issue. That
is our goal. I saw the lights. I
have been on Austin. So I know
that they are quite bright. Our
goal has been to resolve --
>> I have offered, anyone, if
they want to come to my house
and I vacancy with the situation
looks at night.
>> I was just going to suggest
that. I will do that. I will do
that, Mr. Atkinson. I will come
by and look. I also don't think
that litigation should prevent
someone from doing the right
thing. -- I will come
personally.
>> Thanks.
>> So, my second question
tonight. For the past couple of
months, councillors have been --
for the Fairview product to move
forward. But again, they have
not done anything to fix the
problems that have created for
residents on Austin, given that
the project done by Sotramont
and one west -- so, this miss,
ironically started with the
public consultation between
developers, the city and Austin
residents. So, in 2019, the City
claimed to be understanding of
our concerns. So, they set up a
consultation. Because they said
they wanted the integration of
the Sotramont project to
basically accommodate all
parties. And when we showed up
for the meeting, city officials
told us that they weren't
getting involved. They basically
said, you can plead your case to
the developer and see what
happens. And what happened was,
the developer, essentially,
ignored our concerns. And the
City turned their backs on us.
We asked for contingency plans
in case things went awry with
the project. And the city said
they'd prefer to wait and see
what happened. So, when things
went wrong, instead of trying to
remedy the issues, they ignored
us and eventually just started
lay bling us as complainers. So,
given our experience, we feel
that there is no reason to
believe that the current public
consultations won't roll out the
same way. The fact that you
chose a room before you knew how
many people plan to attend and
the fact that discussing Mu2 is
off the table is a clear
indication that you are
intending to use the same tactic
that was used on us in 2019.
When people point the finger at
you later on, you will say, we
held a meeting, we did a
consultation. And the
expression, if only once, shame
on me -- that's where I am at
right now. It all feels like a
sham. So, I don't classify
myself as pro or anti
development. But if the city is
unable to fix the situation that
we face on Austin, you have no
business even considering a
project the size of Cadillac
Fairview. Because when issues
that affect residents arrive as,
you simply don't have the
capacity, competency or
willingness to resolve them. And
if you feel that I'm incorrect,
prove me wrong and fix the
issues affecting Austin
residents.
-- quality of life the same way
it was prior to the installation
of the Sotramont and one west
projects. Both the Mayor and
Councillor Stainforth who
campaigned on a street during
the election and said something
had to be done about the
situation. So a year and a half
later all we are hearing is,
it's complicated, we are in a
state of transition, because
Robert Weemaes left, you tell us
that there's ongoing
negotiations between Sotramont
and the city, but no one is
providing us any clarity about
what's going on. These
negotiations are going to impact
the people who live adjacent to
this projects. The latest -- one
of the latest problems on the
list is the ditch, which you
can't talk about, because you
are being sued. It is municipal
inertia at its worst. It is all
talk and no action. So, my
second question tonight, is,
what's the city's plan to
resolve the issues that the
residents on Austin are facing,
given the construction of the
Greenwich and 1 West projects?
-- adjacent to them.
>> It's a tough question for me.
Because I understand where you
are coming from, 100%. Had I had
my druthers -- I'm not a big
fan, as you know, of that
project, and the consequences of
it. And I thank you for bringing
them up and making them apparent
to everybody else in
Pointe-Claire who does not
really realize what happened in
Austin as a result of that
project. There is litigation
involved, so I can't speak
specifically to what we are
going to do. I can tell you
personally that I really take
seriously your comments on
consultation. And I agree with
you on that. And picking the
room and the size -- there are
people that aren't getting into
it and haven't been allowed to
participate because we don't
have enough accommodation. That
shouldn't be happening. We
should let everybody -- my
feeling is we should let
everybody talk and let everybody
speak. That would be my hope.
And to make it a fair and
effective process, that's the
whole point of this exercise.
And if it isn't, I hope that the
citizens will speak up about if
the process is not just, if it
is feared in a certain way and
harnessed and marshalled or
coerced, I would hope the
citizens would give us feedback
to suggest that that is the
case.
>> I mean, on social media,
people have already started
saying that it feels like a bait
and switch.
>> Well, we have to let it
happen first. We can't -- you
know, we can't claim it's
something before it's happened.
But I understand your concerns.
I understand what happened in
that project. And that project
should be held as a beacon of
light to everybody with
development going forward. And I
feel that Pointe-Claire -- not
enough of Pointe-Claire truly
understands the consequences of
that development. I agree with
you, 100%, on that.
>> But again, why can't we do
something to fix this situation
before moving forward? We are
always looking to the next
project. We are not fixing what
was, essentially, destroyed.
>> We will see this spring. We
will know the truth is spring as
to how much fixing is required.
Basically, the city was saved by
Pointe-Claire volunteer rescue
last spring, who did a superb
job and kept pumps going nonstop
through the entire flooding
process. And people don't
realize how dangerous that was
for the city, since citizens of
Austin. -- and the equipment
they had and they pumping up
when and they have. And they
saved a disaster and it's not
fair to expect them to do that
over and over and over again.
Nor is it fair to expect that to
happen just in the future
citizens and -- future projects.
And yes, we have to be on that,
and we have to prevent it. I'm
with you, 100%.
>> I agree with you. They did a
fantastic job. But it should not
have gotten to that --
>> I agree. I will be over to
see your lights. And I will
hopefully keep a careful eye on
the public consultation process.
And I am listening to all of you
and any concerns that anybody
expresses, I am your voice, your
mouthpiece on that. Because,
like you, I share, 100%, your
concerns for the prices and
whether it is affecting citizen
participation. I really, really
like that. That is the goal of
the exercise. Thanks.
So, we are at -- Linda Douette
--
>> High. I want to talk about
the mandate letter attached to
the -- about -- about making an
in-camera meetings and leading
to some consultations with
Fairview, to get them -- step
out of the ongoing planning
program process.
And eventually out of the
freeze. And the wording of -- in
the resolution, as it was
passed, says it's a mandate
letter that will be attached to
it. The mandate letter provided
is the only one that exists --
the city manager. And she is
referring to a letter that was
sent from the city manager to
Fairview. But the resolution
says, the mandate letter, to the
city manager, from Council, that
is to provide guidelines for the
-- we filed with passage of this
resolution and the integral to
this resolution and that the
city manager will update Council
as the dialogue advances. When
asked for this mandate letter,
it was no -- one was able to
produce it from the City so, I
have two questions. One, when
will we see the mandate letter?
Because I don't think that the
resolution is valid without it.
And yet, it was acted on.
Because February 3rd, a letter
was sent to Fairview. With the
city manager saying she had a
mandate, which we haven't seen?
And that is nice. By then, my
question too is, what did
Fairview respond to this letter?
It's been more than a month. I'm
sure you've got some response.
What was the response?
>> That one first? It was not a
positive one. Without getting
into specifics, it was not a
positive one. I am not sure if I
am to speak to it -- I am to
speak to it, Madam Thibeault?
>> --
>> Not a positive one. -- the
initiative proposed in the
letter.
>> Okay. Count me not surprised.
So, the mandate letter -- will
never see the light of day
because it was never produced
and doesn't exist?
>> Did you try access to
information?
>> -- the city clerk said, and I
quote -- where would be that?
Sorry, I lost that piece of
paper. Anyway, the city clerk
said, the mandate letter
provided -- that is, the one
provided from our city manager,
to Fairview, which is not a
mandate letter. It's a letter
saying that she has a mandate.
Is the only one that exists --
in fact, the guidelines from the
council to the city manager are
included in the mandate letter
sent to Cadillac Fairview. Well,
that's nice that it's not a
mandate letter from City Council
to the city manager. So, what is
the entire mandate? And is it so
going forward? Are there other
attempts to make it happen?
>> To make what happen, Ms.
Douette?
>> --
>> Apparently, Cadillac Fairview
responded in the negative. From
my perspective, I've never --
I've wanted public consultation
and the citizens to determine
the future, to specify their
version of the City of the
future, prior to doing any
negotiations with any
developers. I wanted to hear the
citizen voice first. So, that
has always been my preference.
This might actually help. Who
knows? It might be serendipity.
>> Okay. Is this initiative now
did in the water?
>> Nothing is dead in the water.
It's an ongoing process. You
never know what is going to
happen, going forward.
>> Okay. So, then --
>> You are saying that we need
to find a letter that mandate
the letter?
>> We need to find the mandate.
Without the mandate, the
resolution is not valid. If it's
not valid, why did our city
manager act on it? I mean, she
should not have gone forward
without a mandate letter. And as
she went forward without a
mandate letter, it's kind of
ridiculous. The resolution says
the mandate letter is integral
to the resolution. It's an
integral part. It's an integral
part. Where is it?
>> Okay.
>> The whole wording of
everything is a real dogs
breakfast. That's a technical
term.
>> The resolution is the mandate
from the City Council.
>> Well, that cannot possibly
be. It cannot possibly be
because the letter contains
facts and suggestions not
included in the resolution. It
says other things that the
resolution didn't say. So,
therefore, that's not possible.
The resolution is not the
mandate letter. It's not
possible. The two don't contain
the same set of facts. They are
not the same wording. And the
resolution refers to a mandate
letter to be sent from the City
Council to the city manager. A
mandate letter doesn't say, this
resolution is a mandate letter,
is the mandate to the city
manager. It talks about a
separate letter, which must
exist -- or, how could the
resolution be dealt with?
It's kind of amateur hour.
>> Well, I wouldn't phrase it
that way. But but perhaps
there's a letter to be found.
And perhaps it can be revisited.
Who knows? But --
>> Well, I would like assurances
either that the Council
withdraws the resolution, or
puts it into a proper form.
>> If I will, Mr. Thomas?
>> Yes, go ahead.
>> I just want to make sure we
are on the same page with Mrs.
Douette. -- there is no letter
from Council to Mrs. -- the
mandate given by the council was
in the resolution explaining
what was the future --
>> That's nice. That's nice.
>> Ms. Douette --
>> -- the reality. And the
resolution is perfectly legal.
>> Well, the fact is, the
resolution refers to a separate
document. It doesn't say that
the resolution is the mandate.
It says that there is a mandate
letter that will be filed and
that will be from the City
Council to the city manager.
>> --
>> It refers to a separate
letter. It does not say that the
resolution is the mandate.
>> I -- a bit further with you
about this topic.
>> Thank you, Ms. Douette, your
intervention was most
illuminating.
>> Thank you.
>> Susan Weaver?
>> Susan Weaver, Pointe-Claire.
A little more basic question --
this is a concern to me as a
taxpayer and as a senior citizen
on a fixed income. In May 2022,
you allocated $500,000 to the
reserve for legal fees. How many
lawsuits have been filed against
our city? And will this reserve
cover all the lawsuits and legal
fees?
>> Good question. Madam
Thibault?
>> I don't have the answer --
but I will provide you with the
right information, Mrs. Ms.
Weaver, but I don't have the
right information right now.
>> Okay.
>> I can easily -- the
information, but not now.
>> Yes, I understand. Okay. I
think it's important, probably
-- well, for me, and to all
taxpayers, to know these things.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Okay. Basic?
>> The lawyers -- if I could
intervene -- legal protection is
there to protect the citizens.
So, it's quite a worthwhile
investment. It protects the
interests, financially, and
otherwise of Pointe-Claire.
>> -- okay. And Mr. Thomas,
you've made claims, most
recently, in the media, as to
most and sleep populated -- and
vacant apartments or condos.
When you get your statistics
from?
>> I never made any such
comments, Ms. Weaver. Do you
have them? I never said anything
like that.
>> You said it on CJAD.
>> No, I didn't say that on
CJAD. -- do you have a
transcript? Because -- I'm just
wondering. --
>> I heard it on --
>> If you have a quote. Innuendo
but no actual evidence --
>> Nasser el-Dhabi?
>> Good evening, Mr. Mayor and
City Council. I hope you are
doing well. I'm always facing
the problem, really, or causing
a problem. As you hear everybody
talking about -- the kids can
hear about the traffic --
school, and everything, all the
traffic. -- he knows about all
the traffic, but he ignore all
of that and --
>> Excuse me? That's false. You
are making an assumption and
false statements -- I think nor
the traffic? Thank you.
>> You ignore the traffic and --
with Cadillac Fairview. That's
what I meant.
>> Perhaps Mr.
el-Dhabi -- maybe proceed with
the point without making it
personal.
>> I'm not making it personal.
I'm always facing what causing
the trouble. Trouble for
Pointe-Claire -- what's
happened, as you are seeing now,
the -- Cadillac fair view don't
-- here anymore. Why? -- City
Council representing them and --
>> You can't --
>> Point of order --
>> -- Cadillac Fairview. They've
been voted to represent the --
Pointe-Claire
>> Mr. el-Dhabi --
>> -- about what is going on --
>> Mr. el-Dhabi, if you could
again make a point about --
>> I'm not accusing. I'm saying
the reality.
>> Mr. el-Dhabi -- you are
making statements that can be
proven and insinuating things
that --
>> Okay, now I'm asking the City
Council from the previous
administration, do you have any
relationship with Cadillac
Fairview as you did in business
or somebody from -- a member of
-- family working for Cadillac
Fairview? -- or investing in
this company? Because
Pointe-Claire, we have a lot of
trouble. We heard the kids what
you say, we heard the lady what
she said, we -- owe the project
but did all the flooding. And
you -- continue to just try and
build more and more. So, I'm
asking the six city councillor,
what exactly is the relationship
but with Cadillac Fairview?
That's -- my question. --
represent all the -- Mr. --
Colin -- represent -- what
Fairview? Who can answer that?
>> Point of order -- citizens
are not supposed to go down the
list and ask councillors
questions.
>> I'm asking the mayor to ask
all of them.
>> Mr. el-Dhabi -- he can ask if
you have an opinion on
something? Can he knocked?
>> -- answer
>> -- questions are directed to
the Mayor.
>> Okay, but he's asking of
Council.
>> Just to get to your first
point, Mr. el-Dhabi -- I think
you are trying to make reference
to the fact that the -- makes
traffic around the school. That
would have been a really good
point to just make like that,
rather than sitting here or --
>> Mr. Mayor, I see the two
minute time. But you are not
listening. -- too many times
since last year -- seeing what
too many times -- sorry, Mr.
el-Dhabi --
-- all the folks at home. -- you
have the swimming pool. You have
the high school and the -- so,
we know of what is going on --
the traffic looks like. I see it
all the time but nobody
listening and project after
project that's what you care
about. I am not --
>> That's an interesting point
-- that's a more interesting
preamble than what you started.
Now, you have a question to
follow up with that?
>> I said, what is the
relationship between the six
city council from the previous
administration, when they
calling all of us the problem,
what's the relationship between
them and Cadillac?
>> Point of order. Two schools
being combined at St. Thomas
does not have anything to do
with development at all. I do
not want to be asked about that.
>> That's debatable. -- he's
asking you about traffic in a
school zone. That's a valid
concern.
>> You are not --
>> You're not going to get an
answer by --
>> -- causing the trouble.
Honesty, trust, integrity -- and
that is the second portion is --
about the increase the value of
our house 55%.
They increase the tax, city tax,
16 and a half percent. Why?
Because of COVID? 19? Everybody
looking for houses, the houses
went up. The mortgage was 1.4,
or 5.5%, maximum 2%. My daughter
bought a house for 1.5%. And now
the mortgage is over 6% and the
House is valued 30% and more and
keep going down because the
recession going on in the
inflation and so the value of
the house went down, so what is
are you going to do now?
Compensate for taxes we're
praying now 16 and a half
percent?
>> 15.9 I think in
Pointe-Claire.
>> I get 16 point. Five
>> But you might -- have
>> The increase the house value
55%.
>> A couple of things. It's not
as --, as you are probably very
well aware. The interest rates
are the Bank of Canada, so that
beyond our jurisdiction as well.
The rate of the evaluations of
houses is determined by the
frequency of economic exchange,
buying and selling, in your
area. So if your area has been
active on the real estate market
it has an impact on the housing
value. That is a formula used.
Mr. -- you're here to answer
that during the next period.
>> On the website.
>> Yes, it's on the website.
>> But this was last year. Now
it's down. And keep going down
because the mortgage --
>> That's the Bank of Canada,
sir. The interest rate is not
controlled by --
>> But the house value is going
down. It keeps going down now.
[Inaudible]
>> He had she has two until
April 30th to appeal the value
of her house.
>> Yeah, guys, this is not a
discussion at the mic. Did you
have a question, mister Al
Dhabi?
>> Sorry, what I'm saying, when
we go up we increase the city
tax. But if it goes down you
decrease the city tax. That is
the fairway.
>> That's not my understanding
of how it works. I don't think
it has ever work that way in the
history of taxation. But the
rate is determined by the
frequency of economic activity
in your district, and that's how
the rate is determined. It's the
Agglo that determines that rate.
Not us. We have nothing to do
with. That zero. Same with
fluoridation. To anticipate the
next, another question. We do
not, as a city, have control
over that.
>> And we able to do anything
about this? Who is controlling
it at least?
>> I have met with the
association of suburban mayors
and we have had serious meetings
about how to deal with the
increases that we received from
the agglomeration council, and
we are strategizing as we speak.
It's on my Facebook page. You
can follow the meetings. We are
well aware of that. All of the
cities are aware of that. We are
trying to work out strategy so
we can have some control over
tax increases on our
municipalities.
>> My comment is --
>> But there's a couple
questions there, Mister Al Dhabi
so, I think you're almost done.
To have the final question?
>> Yes.
>> I had the two but --
>> Yes I think you've had to.
>> Every time I come to speak,
the leader of Cadillac Fairview,
they leave the room.
>> They're not leaders of
Cadillac Fairview, Mr. Al Dhabi.
>> Kelly -- I know. I'm saying.
Please, thank you very much. Mr.
Al Dhabi you have no evidence or
proof of that. We can't say it
at the microphone. You literally
can't. It's simply wrong. You
can't accuse people of something
-- I
>> Prove it to you, Mister
Mayor.
>> No, I don't want you to prove
it, Mister Al Dhabi. We are
done. That's it. We are good.
That's all, thank you.
>> District won the elect
somebody really honest and
trust, not from the previous
administration, somebody fresh
like -- and --.
>> Is that a question or is that
a political preference? Okay,
Mr. Al Dhabi, thank you very
much for your time, sir.
>> Thank you, God bless you all.
And working for the citizens
that elect you not the
developer. Thank you.
>> Lynn Conway?
>> Good evening. The topic was
about identification so there
was an article last week about
serious issues add the --
general hospital including six
patients. I'm assuming everybody
heard about it. Especially for
the councillors that did the
resolution, the Cadillac
Fairview resolution, why did not
more concerned about our health?
This is very serious. The
lakeshore General Hospital is
understaffed, why are we
bringing in more people here?
Why are we giving permits to
build thousands of more units?
Bringing in thousands of more
people in the city while there
is a crisis at the hospital?
>> Is that --
>> I know it's a provincial
affair. It's under provincial
jurisdiction, provincial
governments, however, when they
want something enough to do a
resolution to get what they
want, why was there no push, the
provincial government for what
we need before we bring in new
people here and if we can't have
a proper hospital and proper
staff than it's not give permits
to use build more buildings. I
think it's the antithetical
thing to do.
>> Is that your question?
>> Yes. Why are we not
contributing York your
counterpart at the provincial
level to get more staff
intellectual General Hospital?
>> It's been a problem for a
long time, hasn't? It expansion
of the emergency room at
lakeshore has been on the books
for almost as long as the jack
bizarre extension. It doesn't
seem to be happening and it's a
definite issue, and we've had
other people get up to the
microphone with the same point.
I think the valid point. And I
think that bringing through new
residents into one area without
expansion on the hospital system
is a real problem and you can
talk about expansions elsewhere
but it's nonetheless a serious
concern and one we should take
seriously and not to mention in
restructuring schools and
recreational facilities and
other services that new citizens
bring to a city. And so both
seriously absolutely's health
and it will, I think, I can't
see how that problem is
avoidable. I think it's a real
issue and, you raise a good one.
And in the provision of health
care, in light of hugely
expanding citizenry, is a huge
issue. And yes, the staffing
situation and how hospitals are
running and health in general is
beyond our control. It's
provincial and mostly
jurisdiction. However, we can
control the densification of the
cities around our health care.
From my perspective, I think
your point is a valid one.
>> Okay, so, anybody worried
about densification, urban
sprawl, so the building the
hospital in Danielle void Ray,
let them build a more unit over
there. They'll have more access
to the hospital over there.
>> You are saying that --
>> Instead of bringing more
people here why don't we bring
them where the hospital will be
built? Health care is important
these days.
>> So are you saying urban
sprawl will follow the provision
of health care? People will move
according -- to
>> Its my suggestion.
>> Interesting.
>> Why not? If we can fix it
here, they can go build towers
Indian.
>> It might happen, who knows?
Maya
>> My other question would have
been about the Cadillac Fairview
resolution and there was a lot
of discussion at the February
meeting and I agree with what
Mr. to which was saying earlier.
So I think the question should
have been directed more to --
because you were the in skin
instigator of the resolution
when there was all this talk
about -- kid else about it? Did
any Councillors sign a mandate
letter? Why was there such talk
about the mandate letter? Can
you answer that question?
>> It's on his watch.
>> Pardon?
>> You instigated the care the
Cadillac Fairview resolution. It
talked about a letter. Did you
draft a letter as well? Didn't
Councillor signed letter?
>> The council is not
responsible for the director for
the administration of the City,
direct responsibility for that
is Mayor, and once you passed
ask Mayor your questions.
>> Did a lot of, talked a lot of
promises, while making promises
if you can't fulfill them?
>> Ms. Conway if I could speak
to the comment that I find
astonishing. The resolution was
proposed against my wishes. I
put my veto on it and I did
everything I could on my watch
to prevent it, however have not
having power to stop it is
someone my fault, kind of a
preposterous proposal.
Eventually the mayor has no
vote. So something is proposed
and voted on, the mayor has no
vote, so it's not on his or her
watch if they're outvoted and a
resolution is raised, which it
was, against my wishes, I did
not want that resolution yet it
happened. How, or somehow, am I
responsible for it? I find it
quite an astonishing proposal.
You're
>> Not responsible for the
resolution, Mister Mayor. Once
Council has resolved that it can
actually happen it's your duty
in your responsibility to effect
it. That is all.
>> To affect the resolution? No
it isn't. No it isn't. It is
implemented by the
administration.
>> So you have no responsibility
--
>> Councillor Cowan, first of
all, a question period is for
the citizens, as I told you
before, with your repeated,
excuse me, she is there to ask a
question and then dealing with
it. Okay.
>> The question is, in the
resolution there was talk about
the mandate letter, so the
councillor that instigated the
resolution should know, should
be the one that answers about
miss Dwight's question that she
asked earlier. I don't see an
answer coming, so that's my
question.
>> Okay. Thank you. And
apparently it somehow my
responsibility even though I
fundamentally wholeheartedly
disagree with it. That's quite
interesting, Councillor Cowan.
Okay. Sandra Mackay?
. Okay, Mister --. Good
>> Evening. I am the leader of a
climate action group. As part of
-- one of the things we do was
outreach to schools and I had
the privilege to go to three
grade five classes at
Pointe-Claire elementary and as
a result of my desire to see
this following letter from the
grade five teachers that will
give you Mister Mayor saying
dear mayor Tim Thomas the,
students of the -- elementary
school wanted to give you the
green hearts as our unit on how
the world works, and -- Anne of
-- visitors are class to visit
actions we could take to
mitigate climate change. The
student ask wish to I'd on their
beliefs and -- particularly the
Fairview forest. We will hope
you will look through these
kinds of consider the messages.
That's from Miss Leah different
ski and -- I. What we'd all
harsh to you, there are so many,
but many are touching and
beautiful. When my the students
and I feel like I'm their voice
this evening and so some of the
hearts were point parts were
addressed madame La Plante. Do
you Mister Mayor, please protect
the Fairview forest time in this
concern of all the animals in
the forest., The hawk, in the
brown snake. The brown snake is
endangered. I wish you would
take action and stop Fairview
from destroying the forest. I
wish you could be like -- the
who stopped the terracotta for
us from getting destroyed.
Please protect Fairview forest
and make it like the terracotta
park. We unclassifiable two
would like to save Fairview
forest please stop door for a
stationary danger narrative in
the forest and it is such a
beautiful place trees are
important and they take carbon
out of the air. Save the forest
so please protect our force
because we are worried for the
future and kids futures and
defend the force to make a
walking path. Dear anyone who
will listen, fairy shrimp, red
shoulder talks, and even the
endangered species of brown
snake, they all live in Fairview
forest please protect Fairview
forest. I'm scared of greenhouse
gases. Please stop cutting
trees. Stop cutting and start
planting. Deforestation is
wrong. Please save the forest.
I'm a grade five student debt
can clear elementary. Please say
Fairview forest. Brown snake,
very shrimp. Help, help, help.
Cutting down trees is hurting
the environment, and increasing
climate change. Fairview forest
is an example of that. With so
many endangered species like the
brown snake, also trees help
deal with pesky carbon, so we
need that. Please help forests.
Please protect Fairview forest.
I might be young, but I have a
whole life to live. If you cut
down all the trees, there will
be no future for me, for my
children, and my children's
children. Protect all the
animals, such as the red
shouldered hawk. We should
protect trees and ecosystems
because trees absorb carbon.
Also, forests are home to lots
of animals and biodiversity.
Please help protect all forests.
Climate change is taking over.
Temperatures are rising. If you
want to help, don't just say it.
Do it. The children at clear
Point School are counting on
you. I do believe in the
political process, and I'm
optimistic that all of you here
caring about the citizens of
Pointe-Claire and want to do
what's right for the children.
So Mister Mayor, and
councillors, will you please
respond to the children of clear
point elementary? Will you let
them know that you have heard
them and will address their
pleas for action on climate
change and protection of
Fairview forest?
>> Thank you. We have a
responsibility for other
people's future, and that really
should weigh extremely heavily
on us going forward with her
policy. I find fascinating in
the debate about densification
and urban sprawl that the logic
for densification is the
preventer of urban sprawl, yet
it also entails eradicating all
green spaces in urban settings,
which seems completely
counterproductive to me. So I
hear them loud and clear,
myself, personally. Others in
this council may feel otherwise.
I think living in cities where
you've gone up to the moon and
live in little units and you
sleep in a coffin sized bed and
you go down a tube is maybe not
the quality of life everyone is
looking forward to and they we
may have to find another way to
Lee live, ecologically, which
gives us the quality of life
where you we have green space in
our urban settings and we can
enjoy green space in our daily
existence, in urban settings.
It's been proven to be
psychologically necessary for
our existence. So the
eradication of urban green
spaces, for me, is a complete
and utter foolhardy proposition.
But going forward, who knows
where we will end up? But I
concur with what they are
saying. I can only reinforce
what they are saying and say
that terracotta was a result of
a group of very determined young
people who didn't take no for an
answer. So I encourage them to
do the same.
>> Thank you very much. I would
like to give you the hearts.
>> The hearts, okay.
[Laughter]
Do I get them? That's a real
bonus. Okay. Sure.
[Inaudible]
[Applause]
Maria Benner vetoes?
>> Good evening, Mayor and.
Council my name is Maria
Benivitas, and I am death. I am
part -- of Pointe-Claire. I come
to speak to you today for --, a
professional in trumpeter who
understands I interpreting
needs. She's an interpreter who
can form of to -- better support
my. Signs American sign
language. Most interpreters
interpret either with American
sign language or -- or
alliteration, which is basically
through -- but in my situation I
use both and it has worked for
the very well. I come here today
in response to the recent
announcement that interpretation
services for Québec's death
anglophone community are being
cut. When Friday March 3rd,
2020, three I received them who
originator, -- metropolitan. The
agency that manages the quest
for interpreters for deaf and
for clients and businesses in
the island of Montréal. Then for
me the booking request for
interpreters is on hold
indefinitely. -- communicated to
be that the CC as Eminem is
suspending the anglophone
American sign language
interpretation program. As they
have run out of money. As of now
the CCSMN will only address
certain situations such as if a
deaf person has to go to a
hospital emergency room for a
medical or middle of crisis.
Know that emergency situations
were not clearly defined in
writing. Interpreters for the
death or any central service.
They break down barriers and
promote understanding between
deaf and hearing people and play
an important role in helping to
ease the complexity of
isolation. Communication
matters. The death -- community
and wins were by another agency
--. The interpreters have
received their own funding.
While the CCSMN has been
providing services for the
anglophone since 2011. Under the
management of the -- today.
Given without warning, members
of the anglophone deaf community
have now left without
interpreters. Those interpreters
are not being paid, including my
own interpreter. This is not
acceptable. I have been using
interpreters since my last year
of high school. This service is
invaluable. It is -- it
overcomes barriers to
communication, especially if I
am among a group of people. A
classroom on the last meeting --
I use interpreter for medical
appointments and municipal
meetings such as City workshop
that they attended in December.
And this one that is going to be
presented tomorrow. Tomorrow
night. For I will see this --
this allows me to become more
involved in my community
participation other than be
isolated. Now that the service
is temporarily suspended until
they have money, I have increase
the stress as to how I will be
able to understand, much less
communicate. Suspending this
service for the deaf anglophone
community in jeopardy. My
understanding is that the board
of the CCSMM F suspended the
service and the CCSMM should be
responsible for the funds from
the government. Have to apply
for the funds. So the fact that
this has happened even more then
once the issue right now when to
apply for more funding. This is
been going on for more or less
20 years. This means
mismanagement has to stop. I
would like to respect finally
ask you to help support me and
as the anglophone community to
sending in their support and
asking for solutions to our
minister of -- the -- relations
and English speaking Director.
So the committee action. I would
ask for an inquiry into this
matter. If you like to ask me
questions or ask my interpreter
for the information, please do
so. I am more than eager to show
you how this means of
communication system works for
the deaf community. Thank you,
Mister Mayor and Council members
for listening to me, for your
support and cooperation.
>> Thank you. I applaud your
intervention. I surprised and
I'm intrigued by the, I think
there's a difference between the
provision of services for
francophones and anglophones and
that I find astonishing. I hope
that's not the case. I don't
know much and I'm not informed
as to the specifics of this
issue but I think that that
obviously is not a good thing if
that's the case. I would also
like to, if you could send me or
document the value of
interpretation to the quality of
life and to that of your peers
that would be really
illuminating from me. If I am to
draft a letter, I'd love to be
informed on it so that it can be
a good one. And my other
suggestion, it's a provincial
issue. Have you spoken to the
emanate, because Greg I'm sure
would be all over this if he had
a chance, as well. I'm intrigued
by the issue. I don't know much
about it, but peoples ability in
their quality of life is crucial
to this, and so it obviously is
powerful and impactful.
>> Okay, I have to say
something, I have to say that
when this happened I'm also back
to am and a. He is involved. We
are working on it. But I'm
asking also for your support. I
feel it is important because the
more people that reaches out,
the more people that reaches
out, our community needs it.
>> Okay.
>> I hope that you understand.
>> I do, what I'm gonna call
great tomorrow. It will be my
first call tomorrow so I can get
his guidance on, I'm sure he
knows more about this than I do.
But I will certainly, I'm glad
you have spoken to him, so I can
certainly, if you would give me
your personal experience or the
importance to you in writing,
and I will speak to Greg, and I
can certainly draft a letter.
That's not a problem at all.
>> Okay. That's fine. All right,
so, thank you very much. I just
wanted to show you how it works.
As you can see --
>> It worked well.
>> That's right. That's right
and also the fact that we have
had one combinations had been
working before such as the iPad
that have closed captioning that
I have been using before. And
for the answers I have to come
to -- so sometimes interpreters
do work. As you can understand.
So having used interpreters in a
very different situation. Of
course, take technology can
work. There are some cases where
captioning works. But as you can
see, right now, the screen right
there which could have closed
captions, but I can see because
I am in front. But if I have my
interpreter here instead of down
on my iPad, I delay. Sometimes,
you know, I am very confused. So
sometimes I have my interpreter
which speaks me in a way that
some kind of realtime
interpretation. Thank you very
much for listening to. Me
>> Thank you very much. Thank
you so much.
>> Mister Mayor, if I may, to
other people have been added to
the list. Lowest Butler.
>> CCSMM Lois Butler, say
Pointe-Claire incident. I had
some clients in my story today
they're excited about heavy
visitors for this first time in
a long time and a looking
forward to bringing them to the
village and they were asking me
what is the status with the
windmill and is it going to be
fixed and what's going on. They
would really like to know. I
guess I would like to know. So
what's happening with the
windmill?
>> It has been back and forth
for the last two months. I have
been trying to expedite it. I
have been all over it. Madame
Val-d'Or will attest for this, I
have been on this probably every
week probably three times a week
since then there been minor
details not minor but the legal
details of the finalization of
the agreement going back and war
forth between the archdiocese in
the city and it has been to my
frustration and I would love it
to happen much sooner but, -- I
think everybody would like to
see it
>> It's almost there, but it's
like anything it's the final say
-- I'm actively working on. It
>> Yes.
>> I've been bugging I the
living daylights out of. Her
>> It was a wonderful evening
when we saw the students from
St. Thomas, the participation,
getting involved with things in
their community in
Pointe-Claire. I have been a
very strong supporter of
Fairview forest, as most people
know. I would like to know, I
know you've written to Mayor
Plante about the forest. Have
you contacted other levels of
government to request funding?
What's happening? Can you tell
us who you've spoken to or what
you've done?
>> The really important one is
coming up, one is that we're
meeting? Is it this week?
>> It's next week.
>> With the representative,
Madam Plante's --
>> Next week is the other one.
>> That's Madam Plante?
>> We also contacted the CAO,
the most viable sources of
potential funding and the
provincial government as well.
>> That's good. People want to
know these things. They are very
interested. Those two things in
our city. All right. Thank you.
>> You are welcome. One other?
>> One more.
>> A record night, I never get
to speak. I appreciate that I
can tonight. Another resident of
Pointe-Claire, a resident of
Pierrefonds. I am really into
the forest. You will see me on
the corner of Fairview and
Brunswick every Saturday. That
forest is really important to me
and many people, from what I am
learning about likelier and how
many people really love green
spaces in this area. But it's
also important to west
islanders. When I say important,
I don't always mean that you are
going to see people there every
weekend and with their strollers
and picnic baskets from all over
the West Island. In fact, a lot
of people don't really know
about it, they don't know about
the access to it, even though
that's been prevented now, the
access to it. It is a little
more soul of environmental
health that you've got a lot of
responsibility on your plate. I
don't vote for you. You don't
have to do anything for me
because I don't have any say. I
get that. But it is not just for
me. It isn't just for
Pointe-Claire when you save a
forest. It's going to sound kind
of cliché, but you have a bigger
responsibility. There were so
little left everywhere. There is
so little left. I wish every
city, I will go to every city,
and I have been going through
every city to ask this. Every
space is crucial now. There is
just no question. So I know it
is so simplified for me to say
this, but I just wish every
person in your seats we would
look at a forest and go, hold
on, that's not on the table.
Let's see what else we can do.
There are so many other things
we can do for Cadillac Fairview.
Give them what they want, give
the citizens what they want, and
keep the forest. It is doable. I
know you can do this. I really,
really have faith in you guys.
All I'm asking is for some of
the people that are
environmentalists and Montréal
to have a say in this process.
In some form. As I say, I don't
want to take anybody's place
from Pointe-Claire to speak.
But, you know, we can submit
briefs. We can submit
information, ideas, anything. I
hope the consultation process is
inviting ideas and input, even
if only from Pointe-Claire. At
least it's inviting something,
not just on a steering note to
pick that choice and that
choice. A true consultation.
When Montréal holds a
consultation, it's across the
board. Anybody can attend. That
is together. That's to get the
best idea. I really hope that
you open the board to get the
best ideas, the best for your
city. Then it will be the best
for everybody. That's not really
question. That's all I had to
say.
>> Okay. Well, --
>> Thank you for the opportunity
to speak.
>> Our pleasure. You are right,
it effects -- the area is
everybody's resource. It is
shared around the world. It's
not specific to an area. I agree
with you 100 percent. I have
always felt, for me there is a
natural inherent logic to
protecting the forest in that
you do an urban development, you
have a requisite amount of green
space that should accompany and
urban development. There is one
already there.
>> It's not enough.
>> I know. There is one already
there. What I'm saying is there
is one already there. Okay, you
do a real estate development and
you've got green space right
beside your real estate
development. That enhances the
value of your real estate. Your
real estate development.
Everybody wants to live
somewhere that has a green
space. You go to Griffintown
where there is none. The
inherent logic of having a green
space naturally provided a
company of urban development is
when -- it always has been a
no-brainer. Mount Royal to
Montréal, Stanley Park to
Vancouver, and accompanying
green space for people to enjoy
it makes the urban setting so
much more enjoyable. For me, it
has always been a no-brainer. I
am concurring with what you are
saying.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah. Is that it? Okay.
5.1
- Adoption d'un règlement
décrétant un emprunt à long
terme et une dépense en
immobilisations de 3650000$ pour
le remplacement et l'acquisition
de véhicules et d'équipements.
il s'agit de règlements
comprenant divers achats de même
naturelle de même durée
d'emprunt, à Savard, le
remplacement et la mise à jour
du parc de véhicules,
acquisition de nouveaux
véhicules et d'équipements,
équipement et aussi pour le
nouvel atelier mécanique. Le
montant financier sera remboursé
par le billet d'une taxe imposée
à l'ensemble de la municipalité
sera la base de la valeur
foncière...
>> La valeur foncière des
immeubles so explain, went
imposables, et ce, sur une durée
de 6 ans. A grand financial
support to various nonprofit
Organizations for a total amount
of $8,934. The organizations
being the West Island
association for the
intellectually handicapped, the
--
>>... Do I have habitation
jeunesse de l'ouest de l'île. A
mover for 5.1 and 6.1.
>> Cowan,
District eight.
>> Seconder?
>> Cynthia homes, district five.
>> All in favour? 7.1 Déposer le
procès-verbal de la réunion du
Comité Consultatif de la
Bibliothèque de PointeClaire du
9 février 2023.
>> 7.2, a point a member of the
Pointe-Claire Public Library
advisory board, this motion is
to appoint misses -- as a member
of the Pointe-Claire Public
Library advisory committee for a
three-year term until December
31st, 2025. 7.3 Approuver la
reconduction et la nomination de
membres au sein du Comité
consultatif Stewart Hall. le
comité consultatif recommande la
reconduction de monsieur Larry
oignons, madame Hélène Cousineau
et madame Lucie Lapointe pour
des mandats de 3 ans, soit du
1er janvier 2023 au 31 décembre
2025. Le comité consultatif
recommande aussi la nomination
de nouveaux membres, soit
monsieur Alexandra Navarre et
madame Arlette Smith, pour des
mandats de trois, en soi de
janvier 2023 à
(---)
2025, le comité municipal
procède à la nomination du
comité dont la
>> Composition finale demeure a
point when, authorize the city
to son entière discrétion.
Become a member of the Great
Lakes and St. Lawrence cities
initiative. The Great Lakes and
St. Lawrence cities initiative
provides an avenue for the
participation and local
government in
Decision-making regard to the
lakes, as well as a network for
restoration and protection and
best practices sharing between
lakes.
>> For 7.2 to 8.1, do I have a
mover?
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
district three.
>> Seconder?
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
>> All in favour?
>> Hold on, if I could just -- I
understand somebody did not
>> Owe, yes, yes, yes.
>> Somebody voted against?
>> Mister Mayor, I will speak
first?
>> 7.3.
>> I am voting for 7.1 and 7.2,
I'm voting against 7.3.
>> Is anybody else voting
against the same, 7.3? Okay.
Thank you. Mister Mayor, yes?
- Merci.
- O.K..
- Oui. 10.1 Déposer la liste des
amendements budgétaires et le
registre des chèques pour la
période du 26 janvier 2023 au 1
mars 2023.
>> Ten points or two, -- and to
the terms of the Elections --
municipalities, the treasurer
must -- April 1st submit to the
municipal council the report of
the activities he carried out
under chapter 13 of the
elections and referendums
municipalities. In the previous
fiscal year from January 1st to
December 31st. 10.3 Octroyer un
contrat pour la fourniture de
services sur demande pour des
travaux de câblages
informatiques incluant pièces et
accessoires pour tous les
bâtiments de la ville pour les
année 2023-2024 et 2024-2025, à
Sci Connexion Inc., pour un
montant total de 221901,75$,
taxes incluses.
>> 11.1, to authorize the
payment of insurance premiums
for 2023 in order to obtain the
best possible rates. The city
deals with the Union of
Municipalities of Québec. It
acts as the agent of group of
municipalities on the island of
Montréal for the purpose of
insurance and the guarantee
find. It should be noted that
this is the city's property and
casualty insurance. 12.1 Déposer
la liste des changements au
personnel par décisions
déléguées pour le mois de mars
2023.
>> To approve the -- March 14th,
2023.
>> Do I have a mover for 10.3 to
12.2?
>> Eric Stork, district seven.
>> And a seconder?
>> Brett Cowan, district eight?
>> All in favour? 13.1 Approuver
une entente à intervenir avec le
Centre de services scolaire
Marguerite-Bourgeoys, concernant
la prévention et la sécurité
autour de l'École Saint-Louis.
le but étant de définir les
responsabilités des deux
organisations dans la gestion de
la circulation et les parents
autour de l'école afin
d'augmenter la sécurité des
usagers et maintenir la qualité
de vie des résidents à
proximité. --
>> For the provision of a --
[Inaudible]
The provision of certain
additional services by the City
of Montréal. This agreement will
allow inspection in public
security departments to continue
to use in the SPC I system which
is linked to the municipal court
of Montréal furnish until three
years. 13.3 Autoriser l'achat
d'équipement de
radiocommunication dans le cadre
de l'entente concernant
l'acquisition, l'installation et
l'entretien d'un système de
radiocommunication vocale
(SERAM)
intervenue avec la Ville de
Montréal. la résolution est
requise afin que les équipements
acquis par la Ville soit inclus
dans la liste des appareils de
radiocommunications autorisés à
être utilisés sur les fréquences
de
>> Systèmes for 13.1 to 13.3, do
I have a mover?
>> Moved SERAM.
By terrace game fourth, district
four.
>> Seconder?
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
district three.
>> All in favour?
>> 14 point, went to accept the
renewal option for the contract
entered into with CONCEPTION
PAYSAGE INC., For the year 2023,
in the amount of $ 25,186.77,
taxes included concerning
professional services for the
monthly inspection of City
playgrouds. 14.2 Octroyer un
contrat pour des travaux
d'entretien horticole aux
aménagements du boulevard Hymus
pour l'année 2023, à 9042-0845
Québec Inc.
(Mario C. Et Fils)
, pour un montant total de
320913, 86$, taxes incluses,
avec l'année 2024 en option.
cinq blocs dans ce contrat, le
Bloc un, des travaux d'entretien
des quatre coins aménagé à
l'intersection des boulevard
Hymus et Saint-Jean, bloc, deux
travaux d'entretien des
aménagements de plates-bandes
localisés de parer d'autres de
la piste cyclable longeant les
terrains situés entre la rue
(---)
et le boulevard Saint-Jean,
bloc, trois travaux d'entretien
et d'aménagement du côté sud du
boulevard au sud de la piste
cyclable entre St-Jean et
Bellemare, bloque, quatre
entretiens des aménagements au
terre-plein du boulevard Hymus
entre les avenues pas pré-camp
et maltraite, bloc, cinq travaux
d'aménagement du côté nord du
boulevard Hymus, coin ouest de
l'
>> Avenue même Fred jusqu'à
l'avenue nordique.
14 point, three of what a
contract for the supply and
loading of bituminous mix for
the period of mid-March 2023 to
mid-March 2024, to MELOCHE,
DIVISION OF SINTRA and
CONSTRUCTION DJL, for an
approximate amount of $
329,679.32 taxes included, with
the years 2024-2025 and
2025-2026 in option. The
standing contract insurers of --
in case of unavailability of our
lead supplier. 14.4 Approbation
de l'évaluation de rendement
insatisfaisant de Orange
Paysagement Inc. dans le cadre
de la réalisation du contrat
pour des travaux de plantation
et d'entretien d'arbres en
motte. selon les clauses du
contrat, le justifie 4 heures
peut être évaluée au minimum
deux fois pendant le contrat, la
note de passage pour
l'évaluation est de 80%.
L'entrepreneur a été évaluée
trois fois pendant la période du
contrat et n'a pas obtenu la
note de passage dans les trois
cas.
14.5 Adjust the expenses towards
CONSTRUCTION DJL for the supply,
without delivery, of hot mix
asphalt for road maintenance
works, for an amount of $
6,039.75, taxes included. A new
increase of the purchase order
is necessary to repair the
expenses that occurred at the
end of the 2020 season. The
additional expenses is 6003 --
which increases the purchase
order from $50,000 to $844.42.
Including taxes to $56,844.17,
including tax.
>> From 14.1 to 14.5, do I have
a mover?
>>
>> Seconder?
>> Seconded by terrace Dane
fourth, a district for.
>> All in favour?
>> 15.2 award of contract for
company maintenance an award for
2022 and 24 in 2020 4:25 to --
total amount of $248,805.90, tax
included, with the years 2025
2026, 2026 2027, and 2020 7:28
an option, this contract
provides repetitive and
unpredictable general carpentry
maintenance and repair works to
ensure the safe operation of
municipal buildings.
>> 15.5 we contract with -- with
a new construction of a new
police station for amount of
three $3,000.43 tax included.
This is to authorize payment of
five contract amendments for
electrical works.
>> For 15.1 two 15.5 two, I have
a mover?
>> When Cowan district date. All
in favour?
>>
>> 16 point to restoring the
baseball at -- parked with the
total amount of $934,718.01,
that is included. Scope of the
project is to upgrade unscrew
the baseball field at Northview
Park. There's landscaping,
drainage removal and replacement
of equipment and natural
services, supply in Elizabeth
elation of mesh screens on the
play benches as well as a play
service.
>> So important for award of
contract for the structure
rehabilitation of the of payment
drinking water main along de
source boulevard. Along
Chanteclerc and Cornish avenues
for four action eight for a
total amount of $792,000, taxes
included.
>> Dean pointed approve a change
order of the contract entered
into with 12 construction Inc.
for the construction of an
accessible sanitary building at
Augusta Park for the amount of
$7,967.60, tax included. Three
amendments or the extension of a
site insurance on the building,
a temporary electrical
connection to heat the building,
and a supply and installation of
a new sink.
>> 14.1 to 16.9, do I have a
mover?
>> Kelly Thorstad-Cullen,
district three.
>> And seconder?
>> District. To
>> All in favour?
>> So 17, the person presently
does Council on the subjects
here under the items 17.1 to
17.3 consider a minor exemption
request considering the property
situated and I do wonder boarded
a lack lakeshore road. To permit
the installation of a metal --
planning material on the front
as well as first 20% of the
lateral facades rather than a
class a -- material as required.
Be, loading and unloading docks
on the front set back where they
are not permitted, three veal
vehicular access is really tour
permitted, loading and unloading
tax without the required area to
allow 15.2 metre track to
manoeuvre without using the
required parking spaces of the
street right away and finally
parking spaces in the front set
back where it is not permitted.
>> Georgia Crescent Avenue,
being the first triplex to
permit for a street parking
spaces rather than the minimum
required of five, three parking
spaces with a width of two point
05 metres rather than the
minimum required of 2.6 minute
metres and three parking spaces
where the length of 3.45
millimeters rather than required
of 5.5 metres, the practice
spaces with a width
perpendicular to the island to
0.44 metres, whether the minimum
required of 5.73 metres. A
circulation aisle with winds of
3.66 metres rather than a
minimum required 4.5 metres. I
vehicular access with the width
of seven point when we metres
our than the maximum permitted
of 6.1 metres, and finally the
reduction of the space in the
front set back to 74% rather the
minimum required 50%.
[Laughter]
>> To preserve a certain number
of trees.
>> I'm also voting against 17.1.
I'm in favour of the other
items, 17.2 through 17.7. I vote
to vote against 17.1 in order to
preserve some particular species
of trees, eastern cottonwoods,
that are on that property.
>> Okay. But
>> 18 point, two to approve a
partnership agreement to be
entered into with the in this
city Pointe-Claire and the --
organization committed to
preparing a safe environment
free from all forms of
harassment, abuse, and violence,
the common commitment serve to
protect the and interests of
these officials volunteers and
staff.
>> Do I have a mover for 18.1
and 18.2?
>> I proposed to approve 18.1
and 18.2.
>> Seconder?
>> Seconded by district six.
>> All in favour?
>> Madam Stainforth. Closure?
Oh, yes, do I have a mover,
foreclosure?
>> Interesting, fourth district
four.
>> District Stork, district?
Seven
>> Thanks everyone.